As was noted above, it very quickly grew in popularity, and eventually became the most popular rifle caliber in both the United States and across the world. In terms of recoil by the calibers alone, the 7mm-08 round will generally create a few less feet per pounds of force in contrast to the .308. Oh, the 8x57 is leaps and bounds ahead of the 308! You have entered an incorrect email address! It was devised by necking down the .308 Winchester caliber’s neck, in order for the overall bullet to have a smaller diameter. Same goes for knockdown power. The 8mm Mauser had not been very popular in the U.S. prior to World War II. What was the main appeal of the 7mm at the time? Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Jul 6, 2008 #1 . On the other hand the 8x57 is standard for the great Mauser 98 - a combination hard to beat. There are 7mm rounds with more grains of powder that can create more energy than a .308 with lighter load. The resemblance of an … The wide range of factory loaded ammunition enables hunters to choose rounds that nearly duplicate the muzzle velocity and downrange ballistic of popular hunting cartridges (such as the .30-30 Winchester, the .308 Winchester and, the .30-06 Springfield). Destroying a cinderblock wall from 300 yards away with the 8x57 cartridge. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the .308 Winchester. GND is community supported. Then come back and talk about how good your 308 is and how much better the 7 is. Despite the fact that the Treaty of Versailles (pronounced “Versai”) which was signed by Germany at the conclusion WWI did allow the German Army to continue using the 7.92×57mm Mauser as their service rifle cartridge, it prevented civilians from using Mauser 98 rifles chambered for the cartridge for hunting or self defense. 8mm vs .303 Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by therifleman, Jul 6, 2008. If it's recoil your concerned with get a 260. I only ask because I just picked up a couple M48's, which is 8mm, and a friend has an old mauser sporter with no caliber markings. By combining heavy bullet weights with careful shot placement, it is even suitable for use on large game species such as Elk, Moose, Buffalo, and Musk Ox due the heavier weight bullet’s high sectional density which provides deep penetration. It was officially adopted in 1888 with a bullet diameter of .318 inch. Now that we’ve covered the history of these two calibers, let’s dive into their differences, starting with velocity: Velocity is important when deciding which caliber you want to carry out in the field because the higher the velocity you have, the less impacted your round will be by environmental factors such has the wind, rain, snow, sleet, or gravity. The difference between the two is like splitting hairs. This article will provide you a basic understanding of the rifle’s history, the specifications, and why it may be useful as a hunting rifle. The 6.8mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.8×43mm) is a rimless bottlenecked intermediate rifle cartridge that was developed by Remington Arms in collaboration with members of the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit, United States Special Operations Command to possibly replace the 5.56 NATO cartridge in a Short Barreled Rifle(SBR)/Carbine. It was devised by necking down the .308 Winchester caliber’s neck, in order for the overall bullet to have a smaller diameter. Why it's that classic and very versatile cartridge, the 8MM Mauser (8X57 S or JS version). Most importantly, this fact makes the 8mm Mauser an excellent choice for North Americans who desire to hunt with a bit of novelty. The standard .30-30 Winchester 170 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,200 fps is roughly equivalent to the standard 8mm Mauser 170 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,360 fps, The standard .308 Winchester 150 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,820 fps is roughly equivalent to the 8mm Mauser 150 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,820 fps (Stars & Stripes), The standard .308 Winchester 180 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,620 fps is roughly equivalent to the 8mm Mauser 196 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,592 fps (Sellier & Bellot), The standard .30-06 Springfield 180 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,700 fps (Federal Premium, Barnes-X) is roughly equivalent to the 8mm Mauser 180 grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2,782 fps (Stars & Stripes, Barnes-X). Rifles that are chambered for the .308 Winchester can chamber and fire both .308 and 7.62x51mm, but not vice versa. Remember, the area of the bullet increases with the square of the radius. The 7.92×57mm Mauser is now a commonly used hunting cartridge among European hunters along with other similar cartridges such as the 5.6×57mm, 6.5×55mm, 6.5×57mm, the 6.5×68mm and, the 8×68mm S magnum. About Us | Write For Us | Advertise| Terms and Conditions | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer Policy And FTC Affiliate Disclosure |. I can carry a lighter rifle and recoil is mild. The two have more similarities than differences. In this article, we will discuss the history and development of the .308 and 7mm before diving into the main differences between the two when it comes to their velocity, recoil, and stopping power. Compare yourself, you will see the difference. Last but not least, let’s talk about the stopping power differences between the 7mm and the .308. Add to that the idea of a detachable magazine, and you get the M-14. If you read the Military ballistics the 8mmjs shoots a 196 grain spitzer type bullet around 2800fps as opposed to the 30-06's 150 grain at 2750fps.The commercial ammo here is "down loaded' from max because years ago a number of rifles in 8mm jr(.317 diameter bullet) were blown up when loaded with the 8mm js(.323) diameter bullet. Here’s a golden rule to follow for big game hunting: you will want your caliber to generate a minimum of one thousand feet per pounds of force sin order to bring down deer, elk, moose, and bear. In Europe, the 8mm Mauser and several other 8mm cartridges are … There's even more magic in 8mm … There are multiple 7mm magnum rounds out there, but presuming you’re comparing the 7mm Rem. Recoil is also important because it determines, for how, how easy your rifle will be to shoot. And there's something special about 8mm bullets too, but nobody can explain it. New technology in the 1950’s allowed the development of .308 Winchester (aka 7.62×51), which in layman’s terms is ballistically identical to 30.06, in a shorter case. In 1905, the bullet diameter was increased to .323 inch. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. The P14 can be loaded to a higher pressure than the factory or military round and in its improved form comes close to the 308. The French Army became the first military force in the world to use smokeless ammunition on a large scale when they adopted the 8mm Lebel cartridge and Lebel Model 1886 Rifle in the late 1800s. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. Its the newer "js" round that is creeping on 3,000 fps.. In other words, the lighter your rifle, the heavier the recoil is most likely going to be. For example, shooting a heavy caliber in a heavy rifle can sometimes have less recoil than a lighter caliber in a lighter rifle. 7.62×39 vs 308 vs 7.62x54R: History. Remember, the area of the bullet increases with the square of the radius. And there's something special about 8mm bullets too, but nobody can explain it. The 308 is a popular around the world for a reason. The 8mm Mauser is an excellent choice for hunting medium sized game species such as the whitetail deer, Blacktail Deer, Mule Deer, Wild Boar and Feral Hogs, Big Horn Sheep, Mountain Goats, Antelope and, Black Bear. The .308 Win has been used and still is used by military and police force personnel and the momentum of the cartridge is an added benefit to punch through tough armor and obstacles. Many hunters who appreciate deer hunting (or other big game) can benefit greatly from these rifles. was born. Based on the Patrone 88 cartridge which was a first generation smokeless powder cartridge, the 8mm Mauser (aka 7.92 x 57mm) was originally developed by the German Rifle Testing Commission in 1903 to 1905. First of all, the two cartridges share a lot of history. Your email address will not be published. Gun News Daily is the longest running gun news website in the US. Then it’s recoil is about as high as it’s going to get. In 1980, Remington decided there was consumer demand for a commercial version of the 7mm-.308 wildcat, and the 7mm-08 Rem. 308 has a greater selection of stuff to choose from. Your email address will not be published. Plain and simple, if you don’t enjoy your rifle, then you won’t shoot it! .308 is both a heavier round and creates more energy out of the muzzle than a 7mm-08 round. The two have more similarities than differences. The main difference is that the .308 may be filled with a higher pressure powder charge than the NATO version. If there is an 8mm LR bullet in that league, I'm not aware of it. So yes, the .308 should theoretically kick more. But that slowly began to change as more calibers were invented and more calibers began to gain in popularity. The "new" improved (make that the .323 version vs. the original .318) version of the 8MM Mauser that has been with us for over 100 years. Our APEX conscious hunting retreat partners recommend the rifle there. We are trying to figure out if it's 8 or 7. The .270 Win HAS less bullet, "Drop" (Flatter Trajectory) than the .308 and with, a 140 grain Nosler AccuBond or, partition, starting at 3,000 FPS, should be an efficient "Elk slayer" to about, 500 yards ! I'L take it over the 308 any day because I know better. Both vintage military and sporterized versions of the Mauser Model 1898 bolt action rifle are still readily available on the used gun market but, it should be noted that older versions of these rifles are designed to fire a .318 caliber bullet and these rifles are designated as having “J” bores whereas, newer versions of these rifles are designed to fire a .323 caliber bullet and these rifles are designated as having “S” bores. Now here’s where things get complicated: oftentimes recoil is not so much determined by the caliber itself as it is by the rifle that you are shooting. Remington’s parent case is actually .308 Winchester and its closely related .260 Remington is also based on a 308 cartridge. A variation of the round called the 7.62x51mm was also adopted by NATO countries, such as for use in the Springfield M14/M1A, AR-10, HK G3/CETME, and FN FAL. So it’s not like that one of the two is going to outperform the other in regards to the ordinary shooter or hunter.eval(ez_write_tag([[468,60],'gunnewsdaily_com-box-3','ezslot_8',116,'0','0'])); But if you want to be more nitpicky and really measure the two calibers head to head, that’s what we’re going to do here. Does anyone know how the cases compare on 8mm mauser vs 7mm mauser? The slightly larger bullet diameter makes the 8mm Mauser potentially more deadly than cartridges that fire smaller diameter .30 caliber bullets. As a general rule, if your bullet can attain supersonic speeds of at least 1,125 feet per second, then the effects of outside forces on its trajectory will be rather minimal. The 308 will only beat it in( popularity) in this day and time. In short, both the 7mm-08 and .308 have more than enough energy to bring down anything in North America, but the .308 is generally the heavier bullet. Modern, full-powered, European manufacture 8mm Mauser ammunition should never be fired in vintage Mauser Model 1898 rifles unless you are certain that the rifle has the .323 S bore diameter. Today several well known European firearms manufacturers such as Zastava Arms, Blaser, Ceska Zbrojovka Firearms, Heym, Mauser Jagdweffen GmbH, and Styer Mannlicher produce modern bolt action hunting rifles chambered for the 7.92×57mm Mauser and European ammunition manufacturers such as Blaser, RUAG Ammotec/RWS, Prvi Partizan, Sako and, Sellier & Bellot produce factory loaded ammunition for them. Same goes for knockdown power. The 7mm round was introduced in the 1980s, so by then, the .308 had already been dominated the hunting scene for decades. Since 2001, we have provided the latest in gun rights news, tech reviews and product information. The 8mm — or 7.92 — Mauser was the German military rifle cartridge through both World Wars. In fact, 7mm is rarely compared to anything it seems. The .308 Winchester was designed as a shorter version of the .30-06 and rose in popularity exponentially. This showdown, 30 06 vs. 308, will be hard to call! The 7mm-08 is better than, the .308 … NOTE: My partner is an Austin doula (birth coach) and suggests women who are pregnant forego using the 8 mm mauser as it is a powerful rifle. Remington Arms did manufacture a limited edition Model 700 Classic bolt action rifle chambered for this cartridge in 2004 and rifles chambered to fire this cartridge are readily available from many European firearms manufacturers. The resemblance of an … That’s because the .30-30 Winchester by way and large the most popular choice for deer hunting, and the .30-06 Springfield was by far the most popular for larger game. There is more than enough energy in either one. Honestly, this is not a question that comes up all too often in the gun world, and the reason for that is because .308 and 7mm are very rarely compared. Add to that the idea of a detachable magazine, and you get the M-14. therifleman ... P14 can be loaded to a higher pressure than the factory or military round and in its improved form comes close to the 308. Let us begin by understanding the two cartridges historically. The .308 can routinely create more than 1,500 feet per pounds of force, and usually, the 7mm-08 is only a couple hundred feet per pounds of force behind. There's even more magic in … The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. The main difference is that the .308 may be filled with a higher pressure powder charge than the NATO version. Inch Caliber Metric Caliber Typical Bullet Diameter Common Cartridges Notes.20, .204: 5 mm: 0.204 in.204 Ruger, 5 mm Remington Rimfire Magnum.22: 5.56 mm The 308 Winchester was birthed by the 30-06 back in 1952. The percussion and force created can disrupt the child’s health. It too is a Great cartridge.Just love my 7mm-08. Cartridge Type: RifleHeight: 1.686\"Width: 0.422\"Average FPS: 2600Average Energy: 1696Average Gr: 113Recoil: 1.41Power Rank: 2.94 of 20 The new 6.8 mm Remington SPC designed in early the early 2002 by Remington is a cartridge that just may replace the the 5.56x45mm a cartridge that has proven itself to be woefully ineffective in stopping it's intended targets. Nevertheless, I hope that it reviews about it 8mm Vs 308 And No2 Shotgun will always be useful. Even though it is relatively unknown to North American hunters (or very rare at least), the rifle and the cartridge are powerful and effective for big game hunting. Rather, all the attention seems to be on .308 vs. 30-06 or .308 vs .270. or .308 vs 6.5 Creedmoor. WWII The 7mm and 8mm mausers and 06 were it. To be honest and upfront, both are excellent calibers. Posted By: n8dawg6 Re: 8x57 vs .308 - 06/07/14. The 7mm-08 Remington cartridge was introduced in the 1980s. Sorry but in my case and in my opinion, the 7mm-08 is the hunting rifle of choice. The .308 and the .30 caliber series of rifle calibers, in general, ruled the roost with the American hunting scene. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. First of all, the two cartridges share a lot of history. is a rimless bottlenecked rifle cartridge.The 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridge was adopted by the German Empire in 1903–1905, and was the German service cartridge in both World Wars.In its day, the 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridge was one of the world's most popular military cartridges. He is leaning towards a merkel SR1 in 8x57mm. Much like the 308 the Camaro will do more than enough for most people but the corvette will do it better and faster. Doing so does limit the ammunition’s performance due to a lower muzzle velocity. Whitney Watson, senior manager of communications of Northrop Grumman’s small caliber systems division, said his company operates the Lake City plant, which is government-owned and contractor-operated, for the Army. New technology in the 1950’s allowed the development of .308 Winchester (aka 7.62×51), which in layman’s terms is ballistically identical to 30.06, in a shorter case. During the 1930’s, Germany ceased to follow the restrictions imposed upon them by the Treaty of Versailles and the cartridge quickly gained popularity among civilians as a hunting cartridge and remains so to this day. The first difference that we see between these two cartridges are the bullet diameters. I have a routine I go through every year, when I'm headed on a … Nevertheless, accuracy is generally unaffected in the same manner as the .308. 7.62×39 vs 308 vs 7.62x54R: History. The 7.62x51mm NATO round is slightly different, but each round can fire in a rifle chambered for the other. Which is superior, the 7mm or the .308 Winchester? 8mm mauser vs 7mm mauser. The 7.92×57mm Mauser (designated as the 8mm Mauser or 8×57mm by the SAAMI and 8 × 57 IS by the C.I.P.) The .308 case gave wildcatters fresh clay to sculpt, and within a decade of the .308’s release, somebody came up with the 7mm-.308, a necked-down version of the .308 that held 7mm bullets. Both, with proper shot placement, are going to bring down just about anything in North America. .308 vs. 7mm-08 . Using S&B 196 Grain FMJs and Sierra 200 grain HPBT. Let me walk you through a non-biased 308 vs. 30-06 review. The 7mm-08 is flatter shooting and gets you closer to the performance of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 260 Remington that for years have been loved and used by the paper punch crowd. The .308 round was invented by Winchester and introduced to the general public in 1952. The .308 eventually came to supplant the .30-06 Springfield round due to its reputation for better accuracy (although the .30-06 certainly remains highly valuable and popular as well). For reasons unknown, Americans seem to have an unfounded aversion to any cartridge that bears a Metric designation and thus, despite American hunters love affair with any cartridge that fires a .30 caliber bullet as is evidenced by the popularity of such cartridges as the .30-30 Winchester, the .308 Winchester, the .30-06 Springfield and, the .300 Winchester Magnum, the 8mm Mauser cartridge is relatively unknown to American hunters. Which is better? Even though the cartridges share the same roots, there is a pretty big difference in the ballistics of each cartridge that reflects the different priorities wildcatters had when designing the .243 and 7mm-08. Keep in mind, the 7mm-08 was primarily designed as a necked down .308 in order to create a lighter recoil package.eval(ez_write_tag([[580,400],'gunnewsdaily_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_3',112,'0','0'])); In general, a .308 Winchester round can create twenty to twenty-four pounds of energy. Own and shoot both for years. The problem comes, again, with excessive headspace if an 8mm Mauser round is fired in a .30-06 chamber. Camaro vs Corvette would probably for a little better(if they cost the same). But the 7mm quickly gained in visibility, and soon most manufacturers of hunting rifles were making rifles chambered for the round much like they were the .308. 8mm Vs 308 And Glock 19 Stabilizer Best Buy 2019 Ads, Deals and Sales. The standard reamer design of the 8mm-06 calls for a long throat and due to the 84mm (3.307”) internal magazine length of the M98 action, bullet jump is normally around 4mm (.157”). The caliber is, of course, .308. The 8mm Mauser’s larger bullet diameter combined with its high sectional density make it a potentially more deadly cartridge than the venerable .30-06 Springfield cartridge. But the weight of the rifle will also play a major factor in the recoil as well. The bullet diameter is .308 inches or 7.8mm, and the case length is 2.015 inches or 51.18mm. What was the main appeal of the 7mm at the time? And guess what: both the 7mm and .308 can create that amount of power, which means that both are more than suitable for North American big game hunting. We may earn a commission when you purchase through one of our links. The caliber is, of course, .308. The 308 Winchester was birthed by the 30-06 back in 1952. Whether you are located in North America or Europe, the 8mm Mauser is a great tool for many things including the practical (and fun) purpose of hunting. I've been helping my dad locate a new "brush" gun for walking the property. Back in the day, there was previously little debate about which calibers to use for hunting. Due to the cartridge’s effectiveness and versatility, it was also adopted as a military service cartridge by many other countries such as the U.K., Spain and, even China. On average, the 7mm will reach greater velocity out of the muzzle out to five hundred yards, but there are also several loads for the .308 that can equate it. The… The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the .308 Winchester. When it comes to the velocity of the 7mm-08 and .308, there really isn’t that much of a difference. Oh, the 8x57 is leaps and bounds ahead of the 308! A 7mm-08 round can create seventeen to nineteen pounds of energy. Mag. The .270 is fitted with a .277″ diameter bullet. Originally Posted by MontanaMarine. The recoil of the .308 cartridge is slightly more pronounced than the 7mm-08 and if flinching might be an issue for you than the 7mm-08 might be a better option. But it really comes down to bullet weight and load more than anything. The 7.62x51mm NATO round is slightly different, but each round can fire in a rifle chambered for the other. The French Army became the first military force in the world to use smokeless ammunition on a large scale when they adopted the 8mm Lebel cartridge and Lebel Model 1886 Rifle in the late 1800s. For those who possess an accurate 8x57 Mauser rifle, ... • .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield The 7mm-08 can also easily be loaded to near 3k fps with 143 gr boolits. Back in World War II, the 8mm Mauser rifle was a staple for German soldiers, but now may be a useful tool for you to use. They've both done their share of killing. There are multiple 7mm magnum rounds out there, but presuming you’re comparing the 7mm Rem. Just from looking at the casing and overall cartridge specs we can begin to garner some information about the .270 vs .308. There is one major problem: finding an American-made rifle chambered for the 8mm Mauser can be a bit challenging due its lack of popularity among American hunters. The real question perhaps is: which one is more ‘powerful’?eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'gunnewsdaily_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_4',130,'0','0'])); Well, here’s the deal: the. Even though the cartridges share the same roots, there is a pretty big difference in the ballistics of each cartridge that reflects the different priorities wildcatters had when designing the .243 and 7mm-08. This showdown, 30 06 vs. 308, will be hard to call! This makes it a popular hunting cartridge among European hunters. In fact, those two cartridges alone absolutely dominated the hunting scene for decades. It was created as a military service rifle cartridge for use in their Gewehr 98 bolt action rifles and was used by German soldiers in both WWI and WWII. There are far more .323-inch component bullets to choose from for the handloader, and as a bore diameter, the 8mm or .323-inch has a definite advantage over the .311″-.312″ of the .303 British. What should matter to you more is the fact that both the 7mm and .308 can easily attain bullet velocities that are subsonic, which means that the trajectories of both rounds will only be minimally impacted by outside factors. Mag. There are a wide variety of bullet weights for the 7mm, with most being in the one hundred and twenty to one hundred and fifty grain range. If you dive into the historical developments of the 6.5 Creedmoor round vs the 7mm-08, you will notice how the cartridges are somehow related to .308 Winchester. Let us begin by understanding the two cartridges historically. Nobody who raced would choose the camaro. It's a serious LR load in the 308. Guess it comes down to personal choice, but I'd take the 8mm Mauser. American-made 8mm Mauser ammunition is commonly loaded with .323 caliber bullets but, is designed to generate significantly lower chamber pressures than standard European loads so that the .323 caliber bullets can be safely fired in older .318 diameter J bores without generating excessive chamber pressures. 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